Steelmanned

An integrity referee for public debates. We score how each side argued, never who won.

Andrew Wilson

5 scored debates

63 challenges faced · 40,370 words scored

70
Debate integrity · record

Range 6782 across 5 debates. Weighted by challenges faced, not words spoken: how hard each performance was tested. Wide spread: these are genuinely different performances, not measurement noise.

Where these scores sit

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Andrew: 82 (v Dinesh D'Souza) · 69 (v Owen Shroyer) · 70 (v panel of 3) · 68 (v Candace Owens) · 67 (v panel of 9) · shaded to our ±5–8 re-run band · all 46 scored performances shown

Inside our ±8-point re-run band of this record: Owen Shroyer's 70, Dean Withers's 70, Will Chamberlain's 71, Kai Schwemmer's 69. We treat these as indistinguishable from it.

Component standings

Confronted the point75site 5297
Argued clean61site 6100
Dealt straight60site 087
Let them talk91site 75100

Andrew's strongest component is “Let them talk” at 91. Across the 46 scored performances Steelmanned has published, that component runs 75100.

A 100 on "Argued clean" means no fallacy points were charged, not that no fallacies were logged. The scorecard lists every logged event, including zero-valued ones.

The record

Modern-Day DebateStructured debate2h 11m

Andrew Wilson vs. Dinesh D'Souza | Are Christians Morally Obligated to Support the Jews & Israel?

82
DIS ±8
Opposite Dinesh D'Souza · their score 76
CRUX45% · N=7
74
CLEAN30% · 9,825W
100
DEALT15% · N=7
63
TALK10% · 429 TURNS
90

Confronted the point, asserting a "duty to resist and oppose the radical atheist and secular Jewish agenda," steelmanned the Orthodox-Jews argument before responding and conceded "I'm willing to agree to these facts"; no fallacies were recorded; met the "cut off our feet" consequence with "So what?" rather than answering, and recorded 4 interruptions cutting into mid-sentence answers.

7 challenges faced · 9,825 words scored · rubric v0.11
Modern Day Debate / Uncensored AmericaStructured debate1h 52m

ANDREW WILSON vs. OWEN SHROYER: Trump Debate | University of South Carolina

69
DIS ±8
Opposite Owen Shroyer · their score 70
CRUX45% · N=17
74
CLEAN30% · 12,211W
51
DEALT15% · N=17
78
TALK10% · 283 TURNS
86

Across 17 challenges Confronted the point that 'net migration negative' is a success and named a red line ('a mass ground invasion of Iran' would pull support), and conceded the 'Epstein files is a debacle'; recorded 33 weighted fallacy points (2.7 per 1,000 words) including attributing 'accelerationism' to Shroyer, asking 'you want to make sure that they're alive so they can get raped,' and answering the cover-up charge with 'Democrats never gave a shit about the Epstein case'; 4 interruptions.

17 challenges faced · 12,211 words scored · rubric v0.11
The CruciblePanel debate0h 34m

Andrew Wilson vs Tim Pool - Heated Debate With Tim Pool on The Nature of GOD

70
DIS ±8
On a panel with Tim Pool & Perceptual Jonathan
CRUX45% · N=12
86
CLEAN30% · 2,654W
57
DEALT15% · N=12
35
TALK10% · 168 TURNS
90

Confronted the point across 12 challenges, granting God's essence is incomprehensible ('I agree... I cannot understand the essence of God') and conceding 'I don't know exactly what the limits of all-powerful are', while recording 6.0 weighted fallacy points by disputing Pool's identity ('I don't think you're a Christian') and leaving free will engaged-not-answered with only questions.

12 challenges faced · 2,654 words scored · rubric v0.11
The Crucible | Candace Owens | PBD PodcastPanel debate3h 55m

Candace Owens vs Andrew Wilson: Tyler Robinson Guilty or Patsy Debate

68
DIS ±8
Opposite Candace Owens · their score 76
CRUX45% · N=16
73
CLEAN30% · 12,439W
60
DEALT15% · N=16
57
TALK10% · 570 TURNS
91

Confronted 16 challenges (24.8 of 34 weighted) and conceded a planted rifle was 'a possibility' plus TPUSA 'PR'; recorded 25.5 weighted fallacy points, 7 interruptions, read a 'never-before-seen' text he declined to display to 'drip out the evidence,' and granted degradation arguendo without explaining it if Robinson fired.

16 challenges faced · 12,439 words scored · rubric v0.11
#WalkAway CampaignPanel debate1h 56m

The Great MAGA Debate: MAGA vs America First | Part 1

67
DIS ±8
CRUX45% · N=11
67
CLEAN30% · 3,241W
58
DEALT15% · N=11
62
TALK10% · 109 TURNS
100

Answered the off-ramp question head-on with a threshold ('boots on the ground is definitely a deal breaker'), conceded the integration is 'a terrible idea' and that Israel 'already dragged us into this war'; recorded 7.5 weighted fallacy points (2.19 per 1,000 across 3,241 words) for casting the other side as 'stupid people who think Democrats are going to save us'.

11 challenges faced · 3,241 words scored · rubric v0.12

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