David Pakman, Ben Shapiro, Don Lemon, Tara Palmeri | Reuters NEXT Conference Debate, December 2025
Confronted 8 challenges (17.5/19); answered why he left cable news with 'I got pushed out of mainstream media', acknowledged uncertainty ('I don't know either'), and gave partial ground that 'certain creators are remixers'; no fallacies or interruptions recorded across 1,982 words.